Arists wanted!

Heya!
Just me again. I was wondering if anyone here would be interested in doing some work for me.

You see, with most artists, they get better as they practice. But with some, they only get worse. While I'm quite proud with most of my sketched and B&W works, I can not stand my coloring or my background work. So, I decided to post this. :) If anyone is interested in coloring some (or most) of my works and adding some backgrounds as well, please, by all means, let me know! :D If everything works out, I'll see if I can get a separate gallery on here to host the works and/or an art forum as well. Also, the artist will have full claim to the color and background works, of course. :)

For those of you who are interested, here's my email=: email=jacquelinefrey@yahoo.comjacquelinefrey@yahoo.com: email=jacquelinefrey@yahoo.comjacquelinefrey@yahoo.com/email or, of course, just say so here. ;)

Thanks!

Marilyn

I'm not trying to make you change your mind, but believe me, your artistic skills are way better than mine. I can't draw anything more than stick figures myself, no matter how hard I try.
So don't be ashamed of your art skills. There are some out there who are much worse off. In fact, you aren't that bad for an artist, even on the backgrounds.

I'm not trying to make you change your mind, but believe me, your artistic skills are way better than mine. I can't draw anything more than stick figures myself, no matter how hard I try.
So don't be ashamed of your art skills. There are some out there who are much worse off. In fact, you aren't that bad for an artist, even on the backgrounds.

Aww, thank you! I'm glad you like my work! :D

No problem. And I'm serious about your art skills. I kind of like them.

I can't draw anything more than stick figures myself, no matter how hard I try.

Ironically enough drawing stick figures is a technique used by some cartoonists to get a pose right before drawing the rest. I can't help but think you should give drawing a try. It might take a few hours but I'm sure you could, at the least, draw something with a reference. Check out Thorn Valley's screenshot gallery if you haven't already. That's where I started.

--Tzol

really? I didn't know that. I may spend some free time seeing what I can do beyond kindergarten. I just have to be careful not to show anyone. I'm not happy about being sent to prison for causing someone to have siezures and dying.
Since I don't eat school lunch, that may give me some time to draw something.

All due respect i think you're giving up when you shouldbe focusing on what you think your weak points are. That's what being a real artist is all about. Not relying on someone else to do your work for you

Are we defining real artists? Thats one fo my favorite topics. Marilyn, you're fantastic, and if its that you don't like THE WAY you color, it comes in time, you'll find a technique that works for you, and if its that you simply don't like to color at all, more power to you, offering them to other people to color them, because there are those artists that can color but can't draw.

As for accusing someone of not being a real artist, and relying on others to do "their" work, its a bit rude. It was an offer made to anyone that would LIKE to, obviously you would not like to, and therefor didn't need to reply. We're a small community guys, can we please try to avoid stepping on each others' toes?

All due respect i think you're giving up when you shouldbe focusing on what you think your weak points are. That's what being a real artist is all about. Not relying on someone else to do your work for you

I think I agree with Dingo, here. Everyone has varying degrees of talent in varying stages of development, and asking for people to color your art doesn't preclude trying to practice the technique yourself, either.

Think of it this way. Let's say that out of the blue, I asked you to write a program that was able to identify the edges of an object in a picture. This is something that I have done[=http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot38200782709pmqt0.png]something that I have done recently, btw. Then I told you that if /you/ can't do it, then you must just be lacking practice. I think that you would be perfectly justified in saying that you know other people are better at programming than you, and that you'd rather let them do things like this.

I do agree that one should work on improving their talents, and even seek help in doing so; however, I think it's presumptuous to tell someone what talents they should improve. That's something that should be left to the individual.

All due respect i think you're giving up when you shouldbe focusing on what you think your weak points are. That's what being a real artist is all about. Not relying on someone else to do your work for you

I agree with Simon and Dingo.

The true definition of an artist is one who practices the arts for self-expression and exploration. Art is something that should never be forced, but to be permitted to come at the will. That's the whole point behind art. Some people specialize in simple figures, and others more complex. Because people don't share a similarity with your own doesn't mean they are not artists. I remember you said I need to "practice." However there is a thing called style. I do not have a particular style and that in itself is my style--not to conform to something people expect. To expect unification is what is needed to be an animator, but not an artist in general.

Art is so loosely defined that one can take a bucket of paint, randomly splatter it on a canvas and call that art.

I generally specialize in non-color art. Does it make me less of an artist? No.

But, back to the proper subject.

Interesting you're asking for color artists, Marilyn. I have the training for color, but not the experience in it. (Of course, some may say contrary to that, as I've been doing color recently.)

I must agree with Zohar, Simon, and Dingo.
Because I think, that anything done as a method of expression can be art.
Think about it.. Drawing, painting, sculpting, those are visual arts, but what about dancing, singing, music, screenplay, writing, sewing.. the list goes on..
Just because one isn't good at everything doesn't make them any less of an artist at what they -are- good at. If the person doing the actions enjoyed it, and put their hearts into it, then it is art, no matter what it might be.

--Tzol

Sewing? I didn't know that was an art. I've tried my hand at crochet, and enjoyed it once before.

but what about dancing, singing, music, screenplay, writing, sewing.. the list goes on..

--Tzol

All of those are considered artforms. Screenplay itself is writing.

All due respect i think you're giving up when you shouldbe focusing on what you think your weak points are. That's what being a real artist is all about. Not relying on someone else to do your work for you

Of course, I agree with Tzol, Simon, Zohar and Dingo. Especially when Dingo states that you are obviously not interested in helping me and therefor should not have replied to this. Your statement alone identifies you as something who thinks they know something about art, but does not. If I choose not to color my images, then that's my choice, not yours. That, and I never said I was "giving up", and I don't like having words put into my mouth.

And as for telling Zohar that "he needs practice".... you do know he's one of the best artists we've got, right? He's got his own style, and that, my friend, is what makes him a true artist. The same goes for every other artist out there who doesn't conform to everyone else. We are different. There is nothing wrong with that.

And have you stopped to think about those of us who just haven't got the time to practice or color? I fall into that catagory. My grandmother is in-and-out of hospital constantly, which means I have to take care of her. My free time, when I get it, is spent talking with my friends and drawing. And also, I have found a friend on DeviantART who has offered to color a comic series I am doing; without him, I simply couldn't do it. It would overwhelm me to a point where I just couldn't do it anymore.

I'd also like to thank everyone else for backing me up on this. It really helps. :) And sorry if I got a little too pissy there; I don't like my art being insulted, especially by someone who has not shown us any talent that I know of yet.

Now, as for the coloring: I'd be honored if you are interested, Zohar! That would be awesome! :D Thankfully, as I said, I've found someone to work on the Aliens Vs. Predator comic with me, but who knows? I may just begin another comic series to follow that one that I'd need help on. ;)

This was all a response to a post I made? :shock:
I'm sorry, alright. As much as my teachers make me draw, I have seen little improvement of my skills. My weak points are pretty much every physical place. I can make good visuals in my mind, but have no way of putting them in a form others can view (and know what it even is).
Also, I never insulted your art. I was really impressed with it. I would be completely satisfied with those skills.

And as for telling Zohar that "he needs practice".... you do know he's one of the best artists we've got, right? He's got his own style, and that, my friend, is what makes him a true artist.

Now, as for the coloring: I'd be honored if you are interested, Zohar! That would be awesome! :D

Thank you for the compliment, hun. All the artwork I do have online isn't all I do. I have a few pieces that never make it online because the camera doesn't capture them good enough, or they are too big for a scanner. The very first commission I ever had was for a portrait of two dogs, photorealistic, which I sold for 75$. It was for a girl's parent's wedding anniversary.

If you'd like, I can give a go at one image that needs coloring and see what happens. I've never tried coloring someone else's work before.

This was all a response to a post I made? :shock:
I'm sorry, alright. As much as my teachers make me draw, I have seen little improvement of my skills. My weak points are pretty much every physical place. I can make good visuals in my mind, but have no way of putting them in a form others can view (and know what it even is).
Also, I never insulted your art. I was really impressed with it. I would be completely satisfied with those skills.

No, as far as I'm aware, most/all of this thread is in response to beerbeastredux. I don't think anyone's claiming you insulted anyone else.

really? I thought you all were agreeing that I sucked at art because I didn't try. We all have things we're good at. For me, art probably isn't one of those things.
For the record, I was telling the truth about being impressed with the art skills.

really? I thought you all were agreeing that I sucked at art because I didn't try. We all have things we're good at. For me, art probably isn't one of those things.
For the record, I was telling the truth about being impressed with the art skills.

Huh? Nah, that wasn't to you! That was to the beerbeastredux .... person (where'd he find a name like that, anyway? u.u; ) He was the one insulting me, not you. Don't know how you thought those were addressed to you. <;} But thanks, glad you like my art! :D

beerbeastredux wrote:


And as for telling Zohar that "he needs practice".... you do know he's one of the best artists we've got, right? He's got his own style, and that, my friend, is what makes him a true artist.

Now, as for the coloring: I'd be honored if you are interested, Zohar! That would be awesome!

Thank you for the compliment, hun. All the artwork I do have online isn't all I do. I have a few pieces that never make it online because the camera doesn't capture them good enough, or they are too big for a scanner. The very first commission I ever had was for a portrait of two dogs, photorealistic, which I sold for 75$. It was for a girl's parent's wedding anniversary.

If you'd like, I can give a go at one image that needs coloring and see what happens. I've never tried coloring someone else's work before.

Awesome! :D I'll have to send some over, then! ^.^ liGlances at sketchesli Mmm.... inking time. :twisted: liGlances at clock, blinking at the timeli ... After I wake up. XD

lishrugsli Must have missed him. I saw you in agreement with what seemed to me like everyone else in this thread, so I thought this was all at me. Sorry, I didn't notice that other guy.

How could you not notice the other guy?

Me? Very easily. I don't notice a lot of things.

Don't pick me, I'm a terrible artist!