What's your favorite scene in the whole movie?

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HolyArrow

01-06-2005 06:04:41

Domo!

Yup I really love this movie. And it seems everybody in the forum does also. Here's my question...

What's your favorite scene in the movie and why?

In case you were wondering (I doubt it :lol: )
My favorite scene is the scene where Mrs. Brisby feeds Timothy. I like it 'cause Mrs. Brisby's so different from all of the other scenes (in a good way!). I like the way the scene shows how much of a wonderful mother Mrs. Brisby is. I love it...
:P

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How 'bout you?

Procyon

02-06-2005 02:57:59

Hmmm. I've never really thought about which particular scene I like best because the whole movie is so beautifully done. I suppose I would say that I love any scene with Jenner in it, simply because he is performed so well by both voice actor and animators... particularly in the council scene where he's scheming with Sullivan. I just enjoy watching how his expressions change, his hand movements, the lot.

Away form the technical side I guess I would have to say the last scenes, the moving of the block, the fight, and Mrs. Brisby using the Stone. Sound and visuals come together so well. It's a great finale.

Mind you I also like the scene where Mrs. Brisby goes to the Great Owl, simply because I found him so scary when I was a kid and he's so mysterious. The way he looks when Mrs. Brisby explains that she will do anything to save her son always makes me smile. Plus he has the best piece of music over his departure (and through most of his scene in fact).

Well there're three scenes. I could go on like this for the whole movie. So... many... fantastic... scenes! Can't... choose... one!

Simon

02-06-2005 06:41:27

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Excuse me...pardon me.
Jeremy?
Shhh! I'm being followed!
Followed?
Shhh-hhh! There's a crazy lady with a hat! She's got big teeth! She tied me up! And then I...oh! Ooooo! A sparkly!
What?
You're wearing a sparkly! Can I hold? Oh, please, can I?
Jeremy, listen...
Wow.....wow....
...I need lots and lots of string.
Stuh...ring...
To move the block!
Move....the block... Hey! I got string! I've been saving 'em!
You do?
Oh sure, red ones, blue ones, green, yellow....
Pay attention! Go get all the string you can.
Ok. But that'll take all day!
Good! Get going!
I just thought I'd mention in passing.... I've always wanted a sparkly of my very own.
Will you get going?
Sure! Uh...Excuse me. Pardon me. Bye!

I don't know if that's my favorite, but I love the dialogue in any scene with Jeremy in it. ;)

Tzolkin

02-06-2005 14:00:26

After a lot of thought, I'd have to say my favorite scene is when Mrs. Brisby meets Nicodemus.

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In my opinion, the events of this scene signify Mrs. Brisby's awakening. After it, she herself is no longer an ordinary mouse. She has become 'aware'.

My second favorite scene is the end credits, or the imagery behind it rather, because it sums up the movie so well.

--Tzolkin
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NIMHmaniac

02-06-2005 17:38:09

Ouch... This is a real brainbuster for me. Like Procyon, I too feel that because the whole movie came together so beautifully, it would be hard for me to pick one scene(s) over and above any other as my favorite. The whole experience of watching the story unfold before me is just too beautiful to explain, but I will say this... It is an experience worth more than its weight in gold and one that I for one have not tired of even after watching the movie countless times. :D :D :D

RustedWolf Fox

02-06-2005 21:21:08

Any scene with Jenner.

Matthias

03-06-2005 00:33:40

My favourite scene? Well...that's rather tricky. The entire final sequence comes to mind, the duel in particular, but that is a perennial favourite; everyone likes that scene :P The scene with Jeremy and Mrs. Brisby was also pretty good.

However, the scene which captivated me the most was the "transformation" scene in Nicodemus' story, when he tells of how they were changed by the injections. As I have said in a previous post, I have an odd obsession with a vareity of scenarios involving physical change or transformation. As such, the "lab" scene was of particular interest to me; it was very fascinating to watch as the rats were changed from ordinary street rodents into...whatever they are now :P Plus, the swirling patterns, spinning (and 'sploding) DNA strands, and flashing colour patches were pretty cool to watch ^_^.

On a more serious note, I was somewhat perturbed by the torturous effects of the NIMH experiment. There is a very disturbing scene (perhaps the most unnerving in the whole movie) where you see a close-up of a rat clutching his abdomen in pain and shivering violently, his eyes opening wide to reveal the even more ghastly pain ripping from within the mind; the forceful removal from the state of lower animals, concerned with only the here and now and nothing more, to the level of rational beings, with all their dreams, desires, and follies, but, most harrowing of all, with their pain of the soul, and their realization of one's own mortality...They had been given a great gift, the gift of knowledge, whether of their own selves or of this world or the next, the gift of spirit...but at the cost of their innocence. They could no longer live simply as rats; they had become for all practical purposes, people, and people must feel the pain of loss, the loss of comfort and stability, the loss of companionship and love, the loss of self...Yet with pain is also pleasure, that kind which so far only Man has experienced, that kind which lifts his spirit high above the very clouds and reaches for the outermost heavens, seeking to unshackle from the mean, vulgar bonds of the world and obtain that grace which perfects and provides the soul, but not yet...


Well, that was a fun read, wasn't it? :D

P.S. Thank you for starting up these topics, HolyArrow; they have provided much needed "brain snacks" for me...and the others, too, I guess :)



---Matthias: Reluctant warrior, or savage renegade? Tortured hero, or hero torturer? An example worthy of Justin...or Jenner? Well...I guess it depends on my mood :D

Cluny

05-06-2005 13:10:47

Hmmm, I have to agree with Rustedwolf fox, Any scene with Jenner in it. Then again, I love the fight scene. I'm a big Jenner fan, ever since I first saw the movie. So, yeah, the fight scene. twisted

Whiskers57

16-06-2005 15:37:32

I have to agree with some here that the movie as it stands was wonderful in all most all parts. Hard to say what my favorite scene is but one comes to mind that I still get a chuckle out of, even after all these years.


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It`s when Jeremy is getting sweet talked by Mrs Brisby in to taking care of her children. She also must get Jeremy out and away from the rose bush, I think that only Jeremy can wakeup a drugged cat sleeping near by :lol: .
He never gets to take care of the children because he encounters the "Taming of the Shrew" so to speak.

Torrie

27-06-2005 02:34:08

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It's not really a scene per se, but there's a theme that runs through the movie of Mrs. Brisby getting stronger, and learning to deal with her fears, that I really like. When the tractor's coming, she runs out to fight it, but it all becomes too much for her, and by the time Auntie Shrew has stopped it, Mrs. Brisby's curled up in a foetal position. When she ran out to oppose the tractor, she was more impetuous than brave: she had no idea how awful it was going to be.

Throughout the rest of the movie, she's never quite this helpless again. In some ways she's better prepared emotionally for the things that happen to her, but in some ways she's just getting tougher too. After she's been chased away by Brutus and his electric spear (which would probably leave me curled up in a ball) she tells Mr. Ages that she can't go back there, but she doesn't sound terribly convincing, I suspect even to herself. At any rate, she follows him, frightened or not.

Later, after she volunteers to drug Dragon, she chides herself for being insane to have volunteered for such a thing. Unlike the book, there was no real reason for her to do that - she seems to have volunteered because she could. Her manner when she talks to herself is amazed, amused, and a little bit shocked, all at once. She's been used to being a timid little mouse who relies upon others for help, and she's delighted, and maybe a bit apalled too, to find how much steel she really has in her tiny little self.

She changes and develops much more in the movie than she did in the book. Someone else mentioned that in the book she seems to be in her 40s, and in the movie in her 20s, and that seems about right. In the book she already knows herself to be a quietly formidable person who can get a great deal done by just believing in herself. In the film, she's learning that about herself for the first time, and I enjoy watching it and kind of riding along vicariously.

Whiskers57

27-06-2005 08:19:38

:shock: Very well said Torrie,

when she read "You can unlock any door if you only had the key" on the stone I always wondered what that was (the key)? I think she was the key. :)

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RavenBlackDeath

27-06-2005 11:11:16

My beloved scene has to be Mrs. Brisby's first encounter with Nicodemus: my absolute favorite moment is right after she reads the entry in Nicodemus' journal about the day Mr. Brisby died. At that moment, there's a very poignant rendition of Mrs. Brisby's theme(Flying Dreams)that brought tears to my eyes as she said "I never knew." So beautiful. I don't know if that moment is on the soundtrack, since I've only seen the film once, and I don't 100% know where all the music goes: I think it's in "The Sentry Reel/The Story of N.I.M.H.", but I'd have to see the movie again to be sure.

And, yes, the lab scene is brilliant, although the book never mentions the rats going through any physical pain, save the prick of injections. All the same, the visualizations, and musical accompaniment is perfect: Jerry Goldsmith knew his stuff, and he knew it well. BTW, he also composed the music for a favorite live-action film of mine: Gremlins. I've been hunting for the import release of it's soundtrack for years.

beau99

27-06-2005 12:09:05

Any scene with Jeremy, as I like Dom DeLuise. :D

Simon

27-06-2005 19:33:51

My beloved scene has to be Mrs. Brisby's first encounter with Nicodemus: my absolute favorite moment is right after she reads the entry in Nicodemus' journal about the day Mr. Brisby died. At that moment, there's a very poignant rendition of Mrs. Brisby's theme(Flying Dreams)that brought tears to my eyes as she said "I never knew." So beautiful. I don't know if that moment is on the soundtrack, since I've only seen the film once, and I don't 100% know where all the music goes: I think it's in "The Sentry Reel/The Story of N.I.M.H.", but I'd have to see the movie again to be sure.


Yep, that'd be the one... That particular phrase starts at about 3:30 into the track. Jerry Goldsmith is among my favorite composers. :)

mythril

29-06-2005 19:35:47

my two favorets are the scene with brutis and the council scene.

Tortillian

28-07-2005 13:41:35

:shock: Very well said Torrie,

when she read "You can unlock any door if you only had the key" on the stone I always wondered what that was (the key)? I think she was the key. :)

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You know, I think you're right in a sense. More like she held the key, though.

"Courage of the heart is very rare; the stone has a power when it's there." I think courage was the key, as it was the "key" to unlocking the stone's power. Because Mrs. Bris had a courageous heart, she was, in effect, the key.

I'm glad you mentioned that. :)


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My favorite scene had to do with Elizabeth and Mr. Ages getting tripped up by a soldier-dressed Justin. The whole:

"...beautiful... The lights, I mean," was just priceless. And in the movie Justin was such a flirt with her. I guess, like Daphne said, it was more of a student/teacher crush based on his reverence and adoration of here because of her relationship to Jonathan. Still, that's my favorite scene.

I also liked when Jeremy mentioned, when he found Mrs. Right he'd feel it all the way down in his wishbone. :lol: So much fun.

Tenken

26-09-2005 15:31:46

I agree with Holy. I wait all the movie to see that scene. The loving care of Mrs Brisby for her childrens I'm sure that can warm even the most cold heart. My only regret is that I only see the movie in the spanish version and when it comes the flying dreams song it lost most with the awful translation :( . At least I have the original lyrics where the true meaning of the song is (and when I learned it, i'm starting to sing it in the shower but after a few ¡¡Cerrá la boca de una vez Martín!! :oops: I guess I'll keep it just in my mind :wink:

Simon

26-09-2005 22:03:02

My only regret is that I only see the movie in the spanish version and when it comes the flying dreams song it lost most with the awful translation :(

I've always wondered what NIMH was like in Spanish... How bad is the song's translation? Is the rest of the movie's translation all right?

At least I have the original lyrics where the true meaning of the song is (and when I learned it, i'm starting to sing it in the shower but after a few ¡¡Cerrá la boca de una vez Martín!! :oops: I guess I'll keep it just in my mind :wink:

Será más bonita allí, ¿no? ;) Anyway, welcome to the forum, Tenken.

Tenken

27-09-2005 16:06:52

My only regret is that I only see the movie in the spanish version and when it comes the flying dreams song it lost most with the awful translation :(

I've always wondered what NIMH was like in Spanish... How bad is the song's translation? Is the rest of the movie's translation all right?

At least I have the original lyrics where the true meaning of the song is (and when I learned it, i'm starting to sing it in the shower but after a few ¡¡Cerrá la boca de una vez Martín!! :oops: I guess I'll keep it just in my mind :wink:

Será más bonita allí, ¿no? ;) Anyway, welcome to the forum, Tenken.

Thank you! And yes, it sounds better there. :lol:
The translation in the rest of the movie is fine except for a thing, the title: "La ratoncita valiente" something like "The brave little mouse" Excuse me? :roll:
I don't know, I think that it doesn't fit very well.
Regarding Flying dreams, is not that it has really been awful but rather I find that it loses much of its meaning from the original one.
Ah! And a thing a little curious:
When the Shrew leaves the Brisby home and Mrs Brisby ask her that stays she responds "Ni por un millón de ratodólares" something as "Neither for a million mouse-dollars" Mmmh that makes you think...
How many dollars is a mouse-dollar? :?

GrizzlyCoon

27-09-2005 17:55:10

My favorite scene is the flashback part showing how the rats were captured, experimented on, transformed into superintelligent beings and escaped. I also like all the scenes within the rat civilization and of the rats and Justin and everything.

I think it would have been cool though if they had gone off totally astray from the original rats of NIMH story and made another movie about the origin of how Nicodemus became a magical wizard rat, and maybe if they hadn't killed him off they could have made a whole bunch of cool sequels that could kind of be a Tolkien-style fantasy with wizard rats and stuff.

leejakobson

28-09-2005 10:42:41

favorite scene mrs brisby moving the house using the stone because the art work was just wow no other word could explain it. favorite saying "courage from the heart is very rare the stone glows red when it is there" poetic dont you think.